"If you havent delved into C5Pro to any real depthhow do you know?" #1 - People are just getting their BOXED versions of C5Pro so that's kind of a cheap shot - and I haven't played with the beta version since I have XSI and C4D - don't have any need, really. And I never will, yet I USE VUE FOR COMPOSITING MY SCENES. THAT is what he wants to know about. #2 - Carrara DOES have nice modelling capabilities as I've toyed with in PREVIOUS VERSIONS. So, yes, I know what it's capable of. #3 - which has nothing to do with the statement above - I don't seem to be having problems with memory leaks - I'm sorry you have and it's been a nightmare for you - not been a problem for me so far, so stop making it the number one complaint for ALL Vue users. While we were making comparisons, we ALL seemed to take it without saying that he wasn't going to be using Vue to do ANY modelling - and he NEVER ASKED about Carrara in the first place - that was something YOU brought up to steer him clear of the app he asked about in the first place. We ALL understand you like it better than Vue - yes, there are MANY things you like better about Carrara, and that's not what he wanted to know. He wants to know if Vue will integrate into his production pipeline with MAX - which it will, and you can import camera data as well. YES, so would C5Pro - YES, so would EIAS (yes, very limited modelling but animation and compositig is top-notch) - but he ASKED about Vue so it would be nice to stay on target. SHONNER - Great post! Bingo! Pleasantly unbiased!