"The software industry is not religion -- it is PRODUCT, a THING, a TOOL. Corporations own the rights to these products." LCBoliou- Yeah, it is and they do. And we CANNOT take it personally if something doesn't work as well as we'd hoped, or our particular use of it wasn't as good as we'd hoped. The virtue of being "unbiased" is that you can look at things objectively, comparitively, without mental hampering - and to "trash" something is biased. Unbiased does not equal uncritical - got no idea where you put those 2 together... POINT OUT problems without extended personal commentary - that's the professional way of doing things. When someone is contemplating dropping $500-$600, they don't need amateur-night bickering. They need to realistically know what it is they're contemplating to purchase. "As I write this, a VUE 5 INFINITE scene is rendering on one PC, and a Carrara5 Pro scene is rendering on 2 Dual core PCs." ...That's nice... On my other computer (an Athlon 3800+ / 64bit x2 - just one machine, sorry to say) a Vue scene is rendering, and when I finish this I'm going to finish a product shot's background objects in Strata... We don't necessarily care that you use both, or care that I have multiple apps myself... It's that we talk about the software's capabilities and limitations in a civilized manner - and trashing is not valued information - ie. the likes of "...it's not even rational to compare modeling" and "If Vue wasn't constantly breaking (want to hear the latest?)...". BTW - how does a software "break"...? Never had that happen myself. I've crashed my computer a few times, but the software itself... Never "broke"...