I have not had too much success in the past with the usual "Web Rings", but hows about all of us who have Vue tutorials linking our sites to each other? Of course this should be voluntary (in case you don't like the quality of a site, or it's very spammy, etc.). And no requirement that links be on home page (as some Web Rings do require). It would help the Vue users and also help we site owners to rank better in the search engines. Better we should help each other than compete - don't you agree? _jc Art-Head-Start.com Art training e-book for digital artists. Free chapter on lighting, some tutorials and models.