but everything is not symmeterical when modeling. Its nice but not a requirement when modeling. not for me anyway. Now edge tools and surface tools that's pretty high on my list. Since these tools are only in C5Pro I may have to go that route. Advancements from C3, to C4Pro and now in C5Pro Carrara has come a long way in a short time. I'm excited by all the new features listed in C5. Just trying to get the most bang for the least money as I think everybody is. C5, C5Pro, get an older version and upgrade, side grade to many choices.