"$4479 USD??? ....." Hey, at least I'm upfront about the cost. That $4479 will put you in the cat bird seat as far as rendering goes - a wise investment (if, as I said, you can afford it.) Come to think of it, you could cut VRay and use Max's Mental Ray - saving $800. The battle of the 3d apps is over. Max has won (this from a long time Maya/Power Animator) user.