In response to the above: I rather like the way Vue renders look when finished. I hold no ill toward Vue. Like anyone else, I will not trust them, and there are very few companies I will trust. I will not be one of those who get stuck with a bill of goods that do them no good (I.E. the cornucopia, and encrypted Vue models, now worthless for other applications) I will stick to creating my own models in a consumer friendly app. And why would someone remove a post like that, unless they have something to hide, or do they have a vested interest in a so-so product, and so-so customer service? & why is it whenever someone had a negative experience, and talks about it in a democratic way, they are accused of 'hate'? That would be like accusing someone who intellectually disagrees and expresses their disagreement with the president of any particular country, of being a 'terrorist'...What is every one so afraid of? Are we going back to political correctness? I find this almost amusing, that is about how much it has affected me. Two things I love, Peace, and the Truth. To have both, sometimes you have to dig a little bit. Thanks