the MODELLER is the one who can compare his work to a real life painter or photographer, not the Poser user. He translates a real world object into another dimension (a virtual space) in the same way a painter translates a real world object onto a 2D canvas.<< Excuse me, this is not true. A painter who just translates a real world object onto canvas is just producing a technically perfect copy, but not art. A real artist leaves off things which are there and perhaps paints things which are not there, he/she creates atmosphere and expresses feelings. Real good painters do not necessarily paint what is there, but they paint what THEY see and what they feel looking at the scene. >>So its easy to see that in CGI the mesh creation is the primary artistic process.<< I am really in awe of some of the modellers, especially because I've just recently started modelling myself and I know now how hard it is. But I don't think it's art, it's not even a creative process to re-create something in 3D. It's a craft which needs a lot of technical knowledge and a high degree of perfection to make the mesh look and work right. By creating a mesh, however, nobody expresses their feelings, only perhaps their taste about what they think is beautiful. But I think it IS creative if someone is able to combine the morphs of the rather average-looking Vicky in a way that conveys real emotion, that creates a feeling in those who look at the image. In reality we all have at our disposition the same poser resources. Why then don't look all the pictures the same (even if many do - but not all)? There are a few really stunning images that are very impressive. Where do they come from? Obiously it is possible to get unique results even with elements that are owned by a thousand other Poser users, too. There may be only a few artists who are able to reach that effect, but I think those who can do just that deserve to be considered artists.