i decided to show you my b/w conversion. i like it better in b/w because for me the image is a bit busy with all the colors. anyway, if you like the b/w, you could just add one more step to the image above. 11. go to channel mixer and check monochrome. the settings for this conversion: Red 35; Green 33; Blue 35. Anyway, that's my take on your image. like i said...maybe it's better just to keep yours the way it is the way you originally had it. nighty night sister chick! it's 3 a.m. and i'm getting sleepy. *hugs* :)