Mark_uk It would have been helpful if instead of saying "obvious" you had given the actual reason why some are art and some are not. They whold problem in this thread is lack of people giving the essential qualities, the specific, rational characteristics, of a work that make it art, regardless of form. And jhoagland, I agree with you that it is not what tool you use, but the quality of the content. What is the essential quality that makes the work pass over the line from not-art to art? ::::: Opera :::::