IIRC = If I recall correctly. Eroko does have a nice figure and her face is more of a real Japanese look than most. She also has one of the best sets of feminine features, an area where retro-fitting Vicki just doesn't compare. The Japanese modelers don't seem to see anatomical correctness as evil. Staci is from http://www.3duniverse.co.za I'd pretty much forgotten I had Elle. I like her face also. Unfortunately, these demo figures seem pretty limited since they're meant to get you to buy the full version, the creators are unlikely to support them and no one else seems to either. All the clothing and textures of the full figure should work I guess but I see no free items for Elle. Staci looks like she has some free clothing. I'll have to see if it works with the lo res version since I think the clothes may be modeled onto her. I generally don't get too into the cuteness figures like House Mouse and I passed Wapico doll by originally but she kept calling to me. I now love her. She has that kind of indefinable Hello Kitty thing that appeals to me. She had a decent little wardrobe and some add-on have been made. Hopefully more things for her will appear. Definitely get to PoserClub it's worth the minor hassle. They even have a "High Teen" version of the PT that might suit your needs. You can look at the threads here on signing up. It wasn't that hard but I visit the Japanese sites a lot. Use "Translate Page" if you have the Google Toolbar or go to AltaVista and use Babblefish to translate the pages. The key is to keep the Japanese language page open in another browser page/tab. Enter your info and do everything else in that window, using the translated one for reference. Translators alter URLs. Some simple links like going to a page may work, but link buttons in particular often don't work. You get errors there, for instance, if you try to download free items from a translated page. I think the full res version of PHF looks the same. I used the smaller one to save memory. H.E.R. looks a bit too odd for me though I'm sure she'd make a good character for certain witchy looks. My bad for not including Sara. Truth is, I haven't installed her. She has such a lot of stuff it would be a project which is a good thing. She's definitely alive. I think the Native American project was about 70MB worth of items. "...R.Crumb...American Burlesque "Tijuana Bible" type..." Yeah, she does kind of evoke the Crumb girls. Something about his drawings always had a kind of seedy ambiance to me which would fit in with 1940s Tijuana. I actually have 3 or 4 tattered vintage "TJ Bibles," one featuring Mae West and another with Little Orphan Annie--definitely not politically correct today. Three additions, Zygote's female, Arduino's Cindy V2, free for Christmas and still available I think at 3dpmr, lastly, an outlaw, withdrawn, condemned, whatever, Lilin. I don't remember what the scandal was, something with Daz and her using V3 maps I think. Hopefully, I won't get banned for showing her. I promise to destroy her immediately.

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