Most of the Carrara images here are done in earlier versions of the software. There is a noticeable quantum leap in image quality with C5 as can be seen in the gallery. I'm kind of curious as tyo what GWeb neds symmetry so badly for. What kind of business graphics do you need to do? I couldnt find any images posted here from you which is a shame because I'd like to see some of your work. Right now I am rendering my first attempt at importing a poser figure into a scene and using some of the new tools. I just wish I could get Indirect ighting to work. It keeps crashing my machine (total system crash as in reboot). Has anyone else had this issue. And no I am not using volumetric clouds.