hey everyone... thanks for the warm welcome. as for the details of my pics...i am one of those horrible photographers who NEVER records settings or even remembers actually TAKING the picture ... i mostly tend to experiment and take chances and typically end up with 99 horrible pictures but 1 keeper that i really like.... so with me... its like a spontaneous act of mysterious creation... poof... we got a picture. wow. how did that happen?? chuckle