well I flushed it all, reinstalled, wrote e-frontier, but of course they're not open again until Monday. Loaded everything onto my son's laptop and it worked fine, then after I unloaded it from his put P5 on the desktop and of course it worked. The only thing I can think of is a problem with drivespace and/or memory. Redid the anti-virus and had to go to OfficeMax to buy a new CD-ROM burner. I can't see how it can be the computer..it's a 700+MHz, 1gig RAM with 50 odd Gig free on the Hard Drive. I even tried patching it back to sr2 and poof no go. Yes I could use my son's laptop but why? It's worked before plus I'd have to migrate over everything, not to mention the fact he only has a 60gigHD total + 512Meg memory in it. Might get a bit ticked I'm using up the majority of his space.