Lou, very well said, and leads to so many hundreds, if not thousands, of lawsuits that have been shifted, materialized, and vannished due to lack of credibility, belief, and concrete evidence that the entertainment industry is creating the harsh world we live in instead of simply reflecting the madness. I created 3D levels for games and some of the traps I created were very violent, such as; spiked doors closing swiftly upon stepping on a trigger, stepping stones that would disappear in lava, electrocution upon stepping out of sequence. Should I be shot or rewarded with merit? It's funny how these games are always in the hot market and sell 500k+ copies. Perhaps they prepare you for the real world. Every game had a Tipper Gore seal of non-approval with a parental sticker, yet I saw forums with kids under 12 playing them and trying to figure out hot to get to the next level. AD&D took quite a bit of crossfire when a student was killed in a college game of peers who were actually playing this game out in reality. I played this game with my friends in high school at lunch in a classroom indoors, and we were considered to be conscious, abiding, and very nice students compared to the 'jocks' who were trash-canning freshmans, raping the cheerleaders, and creating havok on campus with a much more acceptable past time. You certainly don't see football and baseball in the hot topics, yet in my real life experiences, these types thrived on high competition that was probably stemmed down to bad parenting, once again. The answer here isn't in the media, it's the message we send to children and the allowances we give them. Responsibility is just that; teach desirable ideals to kids, be a good person and have respect, sit down with kids and tell them right from wrong even though they don't see it daily. Ok, so the Hero of the latest new hot movie just removed 16 heads from people in 10 minutes, and you just took your 18 year old son to see it. Do I; 1.) Call Tipper Gore and admit my guilt?, 2.) Educate my son in that this is just plain wrong and is a fantasy movie of vengeance?, or 3.) Not take my son to the movie so he can go with his friends secretly?, or 4.) Maybe put him on restriction before the movie is released so I can control him? Laffs The answer is simple; communication. Be up front with kids, don't screw around with fairy this and fluffy kittie that; we are talking hard core reality here. Some will argue that religion must step into the matter and play the greater role. I believe common sense and inteligence comes even before that, and to simply ban everything that isn't wholesome will leave us in a world like the humans in "The Time Machine", only to be eaten by Moorlocks. "The Passion of Christ"; how did we feel about that one? A bit bloody and sadistic, eh? Well, welcome to Earth and the real world, and perhaps kids should see it as the new XBox360 is really irrelevant in comparison. All these kids getting the hot new toy for Xmas and not even knowing the true meaning of the holiday...all stems down to parenting. I hate to shatter any eggs and mess up anyone's new lawn seedlings, but this world is rather harsh and commercialism is king in America. We can't do much for adults that are twisted, but it's up to us to form the new generation, and video games aren't the problem here, folks. I suppose it's all about time, and most parents these days both work and leave the children to fend for their own. So when they come home from work and see the new Jenna Jameson mpg on the computer with Grand Theft Auto III running on the PlayStation, they directly call the companies and complain the p0rn movie was a bit too dirty and there are police being shot in virtual reality on TV. Note to parents: THE COMPUTER IS NOT A BABYSITTER LIKE YOUR TV WAS. A little common sense goes a long way, and unfortunately we don't have time for any of that these days.