Glad it helped RKane, did it work with Apollo? I've been messing with ZB this evening, this is what I came up with (rendered in Poser), I was thinking of creating some background props for a scarey(ish) scene. It was made from a sphere which I pushed and pulled around alot, from a tute I found on how to make a head at pixologic.com (no www). Hope ya like it John

Fugazi (without the aid of a safety net)

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