Warpo thanks for the link. I sent the message. You know I don't get alot about lighting and such in poser, but I think I'm going to have to find time to figure out what on earth you did to make her texture look so good lol. Sigh the learning never ends.........especially when just as you figure it out they make a new version of poser :0 Take care, Oh and on a side note nice smile ;)