thankyou all...I asked this question because try as I might I have been unable to draw people...well...so they look like people anyway...poser offers me an alternative...did anyway...as for napster...I won't go there except to say I don't use it...I didn't agree with its use in the first place. The sample above was used as a way of expressing what I was trying to put into words...anyway...if I understand what I read here I guess its back to the drawing board.Wish me luck. JP