No offence percieved here randym, I had no idea before I started this riot that we were dealing with an ill modeller. I can see and appreciate the various angles of this. We who recieve anything for free should be grateful we are recieving it at all and accept it in form its delievered. Freebies are a huge part of what keeps people rendering, especially between paychecks. Freestuff providers probably never get all the appreciation they truly deserve. That said its also easy to sympathise with people who cannot model with something when they are part of a community of thousands, and hundreds of those memebers have the item, acquired free, as they were lucky enough to be around early enough or to have been aware of a URL when it originally came out. I cant help but think its a shame that so many modellers cant see just how much longevity thier items have in this community due to thier distribution restrictions. Even worse is that history has proven that modellers who's first lang isnt english and use english readme templates or translators often wind up with much less open distribution rights than they had intended for thier items :(