Ah, but you forgot my favorite "dino trees" of all! :pathetic sniff: When lizards towered over the land and made it shake, horsetail rushes grew 80 feet high. They are really primitive conifers, and getting that seedcone out of the reach of the dinosaurs took some serious growing. Now, lizards skittle in the shrubery and the rushes barely reach my waist. :( I'll almost certainly get the packs anyway; all those CP dinos need shelter. Carolly