Stacey - acadia is deliberately pushing to have these thread locked, its what she has wanted all along. noone else is being uncivil. when a single person is being uncivil in two separate threads, while dozens of others are having a productive and polite discussion, locking the entire thread doesnt seem like a very fair course of action. used to be that in these cases rosity would 24hr ban the offending party who didnt heed the more than half a dozen warnings both you and karen have given in both of these threads. cheers, -gabriel