Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: The Great Poser User Survey ends in only a few hours...

ynsaen opened this issue on Jan 31, 2006 ยท 8 posts


ynsaen posted Tue, 31 January 2006 at 11:54 PM

Every number I've heard has never had the userbase at 1.5 mil or a site active at 37%. Last I heard it was more like 600k user base and less than 10% active. Odds are your numbers don't take into account the legal, advertising, educational, and entertainment based users who rarely frequent the sites. To pull it down to a more active, community level participation type of situation, there are approximately 300K users in the overall community, of which less than 1% are active posters in the forums across the larger community overall. Speaking strictly of poser. Generally a survey with an error margin over 5% is considered bogus. Generally, that's in error. The goal is to reduce to less than 5%. Trying to do so on an intial survey with no previous data? No one in their right mind is gonna claim under 5% unless the survey isn't anonymous. This one was. Says so, right in the intro. As I said, it's the best I can do. How are you determining userbase and active member base numbers? making them up or are you going to disclose with the results? I disclosed above, in my first post to this thread. For clarity, the prior ownership provided sales data. Go dig it up. As far as making them up, No need to. It would take most folks with any reasonable ability to amass and assess the data probably about six weeks to come to close to the same numbers. One of the reasons for the survey, and a big reason for the anonymity of it, is that the forums themselves tend to present and reinforce a very skewed version of the overall marketplace and community that doesn't reflect the whole of the community. There is a huge gap, for example, between the galleries and the forums here. And that's just in purpose. Never, ever underestimate the number of people who lurk. Sorry, don't mean to sound so harsh, you've done the work and are sharing it at no cost to others and taking your time. Just curious. Why not do the stats on the actuals and do percentages and leave it at that? I know, MachineClaw. :) You and I've been running in these forums for a long time. You should be aware that I'm providing the raw data for free. That's it, hon. Interpretaton and analysis of that data is up to the individuals and companies. So, in response to your question -- that's exactly what I'll be doing. I'm personally going to do a broad and deep analysis and use additional extrapolation tools to create what I expect will be a fairly accurate portrait of many facets of psoerdom, and I will post some of that info. It's good stuff, and fun, and, well, you know how I am. This is, as I noted above, establishing a baseline that is not community specific. That is critical. That's the purpose and the mission. From that baseline, you do additional surveys to refine and sharpen. But the core data has to be there to provide reference. Also was the survey IP specific and are the results all unique? When I took the survey it looked like I could have taken it again. The survey is anonymous and honor based. An IP based system is not anonymous, and is niether foolproof nor does it allow for accuracy (some single ip locations have two or more poser users, and IP address sharing is prevalent among dial up systems at present). For the June survey, as noted above, I'm taking a slightly different approach, but, ultimately, it will still be anonymous. *********** When I conducted my last little survey (which grew into one that went beyond our little community and prompted a nice littel contract for me that gave me some of the data I used to establish my userbase numbers) I encountered a great deal of skepticism about the accuracy, the results, and was pretty much questioned on every little detail, lol. I learned then, that there's utimately nothing I'll be able to say or do to convince anyone of the accuracy of the numbers I present. The same applies to the "snapshots" and survey results in newspapers or on television. Its a question of do you trust your source or not. If not, don't sweat it. The numbers will be meaningless to you. If you do, but with reservations, then use the raw data and do your own analysis and interpretation (which is what I expect to be done). If you do pretty much, then you probably have a relationship with me of some sort and already know what sort of person I am and likely are going to get my analysis anyway. In any event, no big deal for me, other than the time I spend justifying the results and sources. Eh. If my goal was to cheat the community, I wouldn't bother being as open as I am about it. If my goal was to cheat the community, I wouldn't be sharing the results and working so hard to get the decent data set. I've been upfront about my goals, intentions, and purposes the whole time, and I don't intend to change them. I'm ynsaen, baby, and the whole world looks a lot different from my perspective :D And I'm dying to see the results myself. Do you have any idea how hard it has been waiting this whole month not to even peek!?!?!? Little over an hour left by my system clock. Then I get to have fun...

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