"TD" - sorry I went off last night. And thanks for the compliment on my art. I've known Panny online a long time and I just got riled at what I saw as an attack. No need to go any further. As to making the call for art say something like "these types of images have the best chance for acceptance" or something, well I think its pretty evident that they ARE looking for a certain type just by looking at all the past selections. This is the "stereotype" the publisher seems comfortable with and it seems even if they are shown them, images that are much different "scare" them. Even Alice Kelley's calendar has a lot of really bright primary colors. I figured this out pretty early on but, since that is not my natural style, try as I might I can't seem to make stuff very good like that. Probably because it is contrived rather than natural. I think we see here some of the compromises that a "working" artist would have to make in order to make a living at art. There's a lot of effort that has to be made making art that is sometimes un-natural to you and has to be forced. Some would maybe call it "selling out" but it's a job to working artists and when your living depends on it, SELLING is the operative word. Professionals. Shoot, I even played in one COUNTRY band in the 80's just to be doing something. Imagine THAT - Eddie Van-Tillis! lol Only one band I played with actually did the high energy, progressive stuff like Kansas, Yes and Def Leppard that I REALLY wanted to play. Anyhow, I think it's ok that Panny and Linda get a guaranteed image or two in the calendar. Probably a good bit of WORK involved collating and winnowing down the "quarter-final" selections and its right they be rewarded/paid SOMETHING for all the hassle. Not to mention the cojones(or whatever women have that is equivalent lol) it took for Linda and Tina to carve out the deal for all of us fractallists in the first place. And the images always remind me of what hooked me about fractals in the very first place. That calendar is pretty prominent and its SO cool to see it bright and bold as love and just demanding attention......'specially if Joie thinks I'm looking at the Brittny calendars next to it, something I'd, of course NEVER do....Honest, hon....lol