Mark, I may not be following you here. Up to Carrara 5 I could click and drag the drawing plane to determine where I wanted my object mirrored, this was a vital technique for making Poser clothing and other symmetrical objects. Now this isn't possible. Selecting a vert or an edge to point the drawing plane(s) to has pr oven unsatisfactory since it's aligned to the edge in all three dimensions so a cleanly centered "cut" isn't possible. The manual still describes the click and drag method for moving the drawing planes. IF there is another method for doing this I would be happy to adopt it if someone can point it out to me... PLEASE! As it is now I export form C5 into C4 to do my mirroring, which is a very bulky work flow. thanks mike