Iloco, you could be right. When I opened Vue, it automatically downloaded the update - closed and then opened again, but it said file was corrupted. I then went to E-on and downloaded the update, and have had problems ever since. Maybe I should just start all over LOL!! This #$# is still rendering - now at 85% which seems dreadfully slow to me. I'll see what it looks like finished - would send it but I have items in it you may not have from Daz (tree, flowers). If it doesn't look good (finished render), I am going to uninstall and start over. Thanks though for your offer! :)