Victoria 1 Victoria 2 Victoria 3 1 & 2 use the same textures, can use the same poses, sometimes the same clothing. V3 is a different critter in the same shape, lol

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)