John You just don't get it. Why when anyone has a probelem at c3d with a plant obj or all meshes the first thing they are told is to go and tell tech support their problem. Why then if they not tied into vue is it that the vendors can not take care the problems and not need tech support from Vue. Its because everything is tied into the different versions of Vue. License or whata every you want to call it its all the same. I think you and all the other biased people do understand but want admit it because of being so biased. Thats ok with me but why you fail to see all the people who would buy if you would take the blinders off and see they are only wanting meshes that work like from other vendors at site like Daz, Rdan and others. You and the committe from C3d are good at baiting but not good at understanding when so many try to get their point across to you. I can see its not about making money but about control. :)

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