thanks sam. it never ceases to amaze me how helpful you guys to the noobs. i could do with a little more help if you its okay. i want to have something printed off, the size is 24 inches by 24 inches. the print shop says it has to be in a 72 dpi photoshop format or jpg format. is a render that size out of the question and if not what should my render screen size be in order to get a decent render...again any help will be apprecciated. billy :)