heyas; actually, i AM rendering in only final mode. :/ i'll try the 4096 bit, too, thanks :) i did try the batch renderer, all it did was open vue and start rendering. i can do that! ::sigh:: i'm thinking i'll have to render smaller, than sample up in photoshop, like i did with the zygote calendar images. oh, and i got it back to 35% after four more hours... and it still had 8 hours left.... ::SIGH::