Dang I just typed a long reply to this..and it disappeared..durnit! Runs over and kicks the Renderosity webmaster in the kneecap..lol Never mind..I'll try a condensed version.. I want to see somebody make new models not based on the "giants" and and..maybe some stuff that is still is based on the original Poser Pro Pack characters..like Posette..something like 3Dream did with Eternal Posette (no longer available) of course. gasp..Poser Pro Pack..well yeah..so? ..at least I don't come here complaining it won't work..lol and for the record it was not cheap when I bought it either :P I wont however diss Daz..they are pricey..true..but they have been pretty decent to me..well ok..at least one person there has been :0) But I would say 99% of what I buy is here at Renderosity..