Let me see if I can take a stab at this thread. My history of selling products for poser started just before renderosity had a store of it's own. I sold at bbay.com. When renderosity got it's store installed, I was one of the first merchants. I then teamed up with Dendras and opened beyondbent.com and he and I sold our products on our own, one of the independant merchants. I think PhilC had his own store too and a couple of others. Renderotica came into being and opened it's own store, I sold several of my more "adult" props and sets there. I hooked up with Daz last year or the year before and started selling my sci-fi stuff there. I now have been migrating my daz products over to seekergamingsystems.com. I'm going to be honest, I'm an independant merchant at heart, and my products are top quality, I know this because I get good feedback and rarely any negative comments or technical issues. I KNOW people want my stuff. Here's the blow... when I released my S.F.C.S. construction set at my own website, I sold maybe 40-50 of them over a six month period. I am now nearing my 600th sale of the same set at DAZ. Daz also gets 50% of the sales, and mind you, they are EXCLUSIVE to daz. I tend to be a person who does things on principal and as the person who does 100% of the work on a product, giving somebody else 50% for an exclusive item BITES, even if I make more money with them than selling on my own. I was more personally satisfied when I was independant. But as the thread asks, how can independant merchants who have excellent products do better? I think perhaps it's because there are too many independants and we are not unified in any way other than cross links, site links, and word of mouth, not to mention making a post in the forums about new products which quickly hit the second page and get burried. We independants tend to hit a market of followers who faithfully buy our products (THANK YOU!), but we don't reach a vast majority of people looking for our products. I had thought a while back that a specific website that is dedicated to being an independant merchant catalog site would be a neat idea. Independant merchants could set up an account there and be allowed to post thumbnails of their products, which would link back to their own website where transactions could take place and people can get larger images and views of their products. If any independant merchants would like to discuss something like this, please let me know and we could have a round-table discussion about it and discuss the possibilities. Cheers, Davo