'I can sympathize with Davo (post 120) when he has to let DAZ keep 50% of his sales earnings at their site' It's a bit OT for this topic, but I don't sympathise with davo at all. Let me be clear about this. I sell through DAZ too, and they take 50% of my earnings, so I'm in the same boat. But for that 50%, DAZ do all the things I don't want to do, like marketing, accounting and all that boring stuff. Not to mention having a large customer base which is growing steadily. Sure, it would be wonderful if artists didn't need businesmen, but they do, and as an artist, all I can do is get the best deal going. Other sites may take slightly less, but they have nowhere near the same sales potential as DAZ. A few people - PhilC, etc - have their own sites, and I wish them luck, but I couldn't be bothered dealing with that side of it, and very few people are well enough known to do that. I've been with DAZ for 4 years and have no complaints. Davo has a point, but in the end, he sells far more through DAZ, and that's the bottom line. Re DAZ and daz studio - Of course they're trying to increase their own market. Only an idiot would believe otherwise. But what's wrong with that? Does anyone think EF started up CP for the benefit of humanity? They take their cut, promote their program, and good luck to them too. It may be nice for the customer to believe that the poser market is a fluffly little community of art lovers. It's even true up to a point. But if customers want easy access to high-quality products at ridiculously low prices, they must also accept that there's a business side to poser. Business by it's very nature is based on competition. And that sometimes leads to resentment, accusations, and all the other stuff we see popping up from time to time. The best thing we can do is try to keep our emotions in check and act like grown-ups. (Not directed at any posters in this thread - just general advice) mac