And, back to you 'fuzzoom,' making trees can be done in a model-builder like Blender, but it is a verry slow process. I'm using recently released Truespace Version 7 here, and I needed the script-writing capability in it to make the leaves. Its taken me about a year of dinking around to learn to do this reasonably well - meaning that learning to control the polygon count is the most difficult thing to do. Also, to make a good tree, you really need to look at a lot of them - to begin to be able to cast a trunk and leaf mass well. (It helps me that I've stared at trees for about 35 years or more.) I would encourage you to keep working at it, but its a long process. Note that these trees are not suitable for close- views. For those kinds of needs, I would recommend Xfrog Lite to anyone. It still takes a while to learn to make a good tree, and that special "character tree" with lots of twists and such still eludes me. But, I keep trying, and so should you.