Miss Nancy, you take the trophy. Ok, I tried the cr2 replacement and failed miserably. BUT. . .I filtered the Grouped Cinema 4D object through Poser without any rigging whatsoever. Exported each and every part. Started new. Clicked on the cr2 with previous rigging and JPs pointing to that filtered thru Poser object and VUALA. It remained intact. Now I just have to fix the stuck to the floor feet and he's going to be a figure!!! . . .now how do I do that? adjust the cr2. Or remake it somehow?