well, that's fine, we groked that before you said it. We did not EXPECT anything, we just need to find out. It is a necessary effort to get as close as possible, know the facts, and understand the cost so it can factor into a decision to purchase Carrara due to it's other benefits that ARE native. And, lest you forget, Carrara's publisher is promoting this program in a major way as highly sympatico with Poser. That's why it is getting a lot of attention from Poser people. They did not accompany this marketing with an intense exporation of what works, what does not work, and how well. SOMEBODY had to go in an geet the real skinny on how a major feature, dynamic hair, performs when transported. ::::: Opera :::::