Thank you for the links, I have checked them out. They seem great only thing is from what I can see (could be wrong) they don't tell you how to use the material room and to package them up to sell. That is my problem. I can't get my outfit to look right in Poser when I click on the little icon to apply it. And I haven't a clue about Cr2's and rsr files. Or how to make Poses etc. I hope that makes sense. ;o) And then the whole process of packaging it up to sell. Also with groups there are so many emails. Just thought it might be a good idea for Renderosity to do this. Could generate so many more sales for them if more people could do it. Again just a thought.