Hi Folks! I think all the ideas and ideals here are great. But I wonder: what kinds of tradeoffs would a feature-rich program like that require--especially in price and RAM? Although Poser is gaining stature among digital professionals (as well it should), its low-end price makes it attractive to general consumers. But it is a RAM-hungry application. I have to allocate at least 128MB just to get Poser to know it's running, by far the most demanding of any software I run, including Photoshop. I wonder how much version 5 running on Max OS X or Windows XP is gonna require? And will it still weigh in under $200? Once the price stays past that point, even with an academic discount I would have to justify its purchase. I'm already having to shell out lots of money each year to keep my software for professional activities up do date. Maybe it's time for someone to start developing Poser plug-ins, much like the add-on characters available from DAZ, and create a market for the kind of stuff someone can purchase to enhance Photoshop. I'm not trying to cast a pall on all this optimism--just thinking out loud. Peter (Dr Zik)