LOL and thanks, both of you. GPFrance: Yup that's sort of what I'm trying to achieve, a cross between the two. Your LH pic (the volumetric one) shows the basic effect of the way I want the pic's sky to appear, except for the much quicker darkening of the sky as shown in the RH (standard) pic. (W/O the blue haze, and the silly disk-type sun tho'.) I've played around with fog'n'haze to get that "rapidly darkening" effect til I've gone blue. Also played with the cloud-tab variables. So far nothing has worked for me. There must, surely, be way to get a sunset, using Volumetric, that can set the sky's zenith to be nearly black? It's something I see (in real life) whenever the sun is near that position (although that's not often, given I live in the UK and the sky is usually covered in dank grey clouds). But when it isn't it gets darker towards the top much more quickly than I've been able to achive in Vue. I've also been to the Caribbean and the Mediterrainian and seen the same effect, tho warmer:-) And that's the effect I'm trying to achieve. Ah well, I'll keep plugging at it, on and off. If I ever get anywhere, I'll most certainly post the settings here.. Cheers, and thanks again, Diolma