Yes mater of fact T3W it is. I had to throw in a figure or two, and what better than a Dragon. But I found out that I did have any. So I downloaded that tex yesterday. Thanks!! There weren't many available, and yours was by far the best. Ghost, I'm using a combination of programs (Well they're really one in the same tecnically). Infini-D and Carrara. Infini-D does a much better job of percise modeling, ala their full vector editing similar to Adobe Illustrator. Carrara has it too but does not allow simple things like snap to grid/guides, guides, and nudging. I really only brought it into Carrara to save it as an obj. I hope they fix Carrara soon. They really screwed things up when they combined Infini-D and RayDream to come up with a fairly sad excuse called Carrara. But I'm hopeing on a major update someday so they might get things right. But that's besides the point. To get the curved walls with cutouts for windows and doors, required a lot of extra polys. But with a little extra planning and extra peices (lower poys) I should be able to get the size down to something less forboding. James