hehe in 3dsmax I don't need scaffolding B-) Fran, great to hear u got urself Cinema9.5! It's supposed to be great value for money :-D I'll be looking forward to seeing what you come up with in Cinema ;) To Fran and anyone else here reading this thinking "ooh I wish I cold do that too". Don't hesitate to try! haha If you want to learn modelling, look at other peoples models a LOT preferably when the wireframes are revealed. And tons of tutorials and such. Also if the modelling tutorials are for other software packages. It helps so much! The good thing about model wireframes is that not only they reveal the shape of the model, but they also reveal to some degree how it was constructed ;)

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