It's ok trav, I didn't feel that way, just wanted to clarify I didn't think it was an all or nothing situation. Having the modeling tools in c5 IS an advantage. That is a down side. Another interface and another program w/ import/export.Getting a hex bridge will help alot. I hardly touched carrara before this version so I wasn't really accustomed to things. Had I been using it I might very well find carrara more comfortable.I just felt like sometimes I had to do more steps in carrara than hex. If I really wanted to model in carrara I would recommend pro over standard that's all. I do love the dynamic geometry tho. Did I say that enough;)

No need to think outside the box....
    Just make it invisible.