If the list is showing, the copy/paste buttons should be too - can you post a screen shot of your surfaces palette? It sounds as if something odd is happening. muller: dod you have cast shadows on for both the light and the props? And do you have a surface for the shadows to be cast onto? And are you doing a 3Delight render - OpenGL shadows can be iffy depending on your hardware.

Message edited on: 02/24/2006 09:12