Ive messed with the properties of both characters and...well, the Pred character doesnt seem to have the right eh...wheel, for lack of better words. Im using the free Pred character and V3. And the Alien Queen... I zoomed way out to where the "floor" guidlines are seen in the entire window. No Queen, but Poser says its there shrugs The pc works just fine, and I installed all three Queen zips...so... sighs Ill figure it out eventually, cause I'm not exactly getting the answers Im looking for. Thanks. LS