But what "is using commerically" I think it is one thing to sell renders made with stuff, another to put a render up that can be viewed for free on a site that happens to have advertising banners. Where do you draw the line? From what others have said I don't think renders produced with a product are covered by any restrictions placed on a product anyway. I have a hard time connecting this argument to warez, not the same thing. IMHO all items that have commericial restrictions should be removed from Free Stuff, or to put it another way, one of the conditions to put things in Free Stuff would be no commerical restrictions.