ya they take a while to show up. Try my site at about 6:00 Atlantic Time that is where they will show up first, at rosity 6-12 hours later. http://www.freewebs.com/mapps/downloads8.htm they will show up on this page at the bottom of the page. I'll have to start a Downloads #9 soon as this page is getting full....12 pages of downloads are not enough...lol