Further thoughts, triggered by: "The camouflage pattern is rather intresting, one of those newer urban patterns." There you are standing in your living room, when a great rumble is heard in the distance. You look out and watch a strange, large pattern coming down the road towards you. From the shadow, it's obviously a large vehicle. Although there have been serious disturbances in the area, you don't see the vehicle, 'cos its got "Urban Camouflage".... OR.. In your fighter jet, you look down and see a strange pattern in the middle of the road (with shadow).. OR.. The resistance fighters are holed up in an abandoned building. They feel the ground shake under their feet, look out (carefully) and see a vehicle coming towards them along the road. Its outline is a little indistinct, but the vehicle is obviously larger than any normal civilian vehicle, so they attack it with everything they've got.. Not getting at you, RobertJ, just at the camouflage guys... Someone doesn't have their thinking-cap on straight... Cheers, Diolma