John I don't have a web site yet so I tend to mail out free stuff. If you want them (and I'm doing this in another thread already) let me brush up the UV mapping making it something usable by my new standards, and I'll send them to you. In fact if Tabby wants them I'll even fit them to V3 (assuming her legs are the same as standard V3) for her. (Can you tell I'm an admirer?) mike