Sorry guys, I didn't mean that I was leaving or anything, its just with the new "on topic" rule I wasn't sure if posting site updates was in there or not. Sorry to get everyone in a stew :( Picnic: I have no other hobbies :) Robert: hands him a penny There you go buddy :) Bill: You may want to try Akisiel's eye morphs at the Props Guild, (http://www.gwz.org/propsguild/files/Morphs/page8.htm) They look better than mine. I will give mine a second work over. The method I use for smoothing tends to spread the points out some, I will re-do it by hand and see how it works. Thanks Guys for all your comments and suggestions! -Traveler, who is trying to keep his head from swelling up again. :)