Glad to se your initial testing is going well. The shield is in the geometry folder mordikar>P4fem Platemail. While doing rsr renders last night i came to the suddent realization that while it got parented and positioned .. it didn't get smart propped. (Will fix today and send you the pp2. ) I turn off chest, abdomen, r&l collars, soulders, and forearms. because yes she pokes thru the hauberk badly .. As for the line between the hand and the hauberk sleeve. I saw it too. The gauntlets cover it. but if you aren't using it yes theres a thin line that can be seen. would not mind a fix morph for each sleeve, but i'll leave it at 0 since a morph will probably poke thru the gauntlets. Posing notes The knees are parented to the thighs. get too bendy with the legs and you have to reposition and rotate a bit to make em look good. The elbows are parented to the forearms .. same thing applies. The breastplate does some strange things on the side if you get crazy with it. The trim seems to spearate from the rest of the armour. It doesn't do it unless you start gtting real twisty. Remember this is platemail ... twisty is unrealistic! :)