World of Pain indeed!!! growls I feel a Sithly mood swing coming on... lol Yes Poser IS a memory hog. I had to alt-ctrl-delete a few times cause the pc was slowing down. I had outlook express, Poser 6 and another program running. At that time, Poser was running over 100,000 in memory! YIKES!! I ended up closing everything but poser. And as for save, close then reopen. Tried it. 3 times. Didnt work. exporting to another programs sounds more promising. I have 3dx max, Maya...and working on getting Vue 5 Infinite. Would any of those work for rendering??? Feeling face getting hot... phew! LS