ok playing with mat pose edit .. I load a figure or prop, don't load morph data (morph data makes it much worse) set all my textures. save my mat pose, go to run it and it break the conforming (loading morph data actually sent the legs into outer space) i think maybe all this mat pose stuff is just too much .. i did it for the archery pack but i don't remember how i did it :( and it doesn't seem to be worth the trouble as I can't really figure out what i'm doing or how to do it. Some items have 4 materials, some only have 2 or 3 .. the sword and shields materials don't match the other figure materials at all. I can't get mat pose edit to build mats for the props at all... It's all just a bit confusing. I may just leave it white, call it done. tyger, theres only what 50,000+ rosity members? you can't remember all of us and what software we use? .. wow you're slackin ;>